Do you think there’s any cure for the malaise of the modern world? Is there anything we can do about it?
“I guess, evidently, we’re going to attack Iran and start an atomic war and everybody’s going to have to get their shit together. They basically kicked a hornet’s nest. Not there. I mean, we’re fighting China too, I mean, that’s going to change the malaise, but I just don’t understand how you can brainwash everybody and expect to defend everybody at the same time if they can’t function even against an ex-Tesco advertising campaign. To me, I just don’t see the logic in it. I think it’s failed. It seems like there’s a planned obsolescence for mass-population that’s been in the works for a long time. If it was my guess, that’s what I’d think. And that’ll kill the congestion tax right there. Just kill off like 60% of the population.”

How do you feel about the political state of America right now?
“They’re suing half of the caucuses of the States individually for rigging the votes, which has already been proved, and they’re already proved court cases, and it’s a fact so it’s not like ‘Oh, they rigged a vote in Florida once or in Ohio the next time, they’re doing the whole thing. So…I don’t think there’s one uniform opinion in America, and I have to be careful because I’m claiming citizenship there right now, and it’s treachery right now, according to the suspension of habeus corpus, for me to be discussing this with a foreigner in a foreign country. All I can say, honestly, is I have healthy faith in the resiliency of some of the American people. There is not one unified opinion. We’re going to talk about 46 million people, we’re talking about over 350 million people probably in residence, we just don’t know, but it’s probably that many, and there’s not one unified opinion and I like that, but I really don’t like the push through…faulty concepts and people’s fears in one direction. I don’t want everyone to wear one brown shirt or one black shirt or step down the street in a certain way or tell me when to get into a shower. And I see that.”

Can we extend that to your music? Is there…
“It’s not related. These are my opinions.”

But do your opinions in any way inform the music that you make, or is it completely separate? Because obviously, people tend to make music…
[Irately] “Well, obviously, if you listen to our dialogue, I think a lot. So my thought process informs my music. It’s like Legos – if you get all the building blocks. You either get life or you don’t get it and I’m a person that gets it. Period. And that’s incontrovertible. It’s evident. I mean, how many employees do you have?”

I don’t...
“I have 49 with paid insurance in England alone. Full time. That’s a living wage, with full medical. So you can’t argue with results and I’m not interested in discussing my music whatsoever. Why don’t you sit here and tell me what you think about my music, because I don’t think you get it either. And I don’t care. That’s the interesting thing about art, is you can’t stop what’s already out there. You can’t do anything. All the Mossad agents in the world can’t stop it. It’s already out there.”

But that’s a good thing, surely?
“I don’t believe in good and bad.”

Okay, it’s positive.
“I believe it’s positive, because it speaks for humanity and thus it’s against a machine mentality. So I don’t need Prozac to express that. Now what should really disturb you is that the President of my country cannot speak in a sentence, articulate any of these notions as well as I just did. And that should scare you. Not, ‘Oh, I’ve got to pay off my £175 a month flat rent or week or whatever it is,’ but that should truly terrify you.”

But that’s a condition of human society now, that we’re…
“Apathetic. Well, I think that’s induced. Because people have a natural curiosity. Some people do. Now I intend just to be a productive, civic-minded member of society until the day they kill me first.”

And do you think they’re going to kill you?
“Well, I’ve just seen what happens to the tall blade of grass, always, on a polo field.”

Is that a worry?
“No. It doesn’t trouble me. It’s not like it’s winning the national f*cking lottery being alive here. I mean this sucks. So I don’t really give a shit. That’s true. I’m not joking. I’m not even afraid.”

Are you afraid of anything? Is that anything that scares you?
“Well here’s the thing. I have a natural reflex. I get terrified for a minute and then jump right into the fire and carry on with my business. That’s real. That isn’t a false sense of ‘Hi, I’m nine years old, my mum bought me this fake Adidas thing at the car boot sale and now I’m going to go beat up a thirty year old’ mentality. That’s not what I’m talking about. Everything tears me apart, but I just go for it.”

And it makes you stronger?
“I think experience makes you wise. So my wisdom means I have discernment and I have an equilibrium and a wealth of information and perspective to draw upon and make informed decisions.”

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