I was going to ask you earlier, but we kind of got distracted, about the drugs, and how that has affected the way you look at the world now. Has it changed your viewpoint? Do you feel more alive? Do you feel more…
“Well, listen. I’m not advocating drug use but I use drugs and I’m personally [a few indecipherable words] using them all the time…I use them…everybody uses them.”

Absolutely.
“Prozac is a drug.”

But you said earlier that you tried to destroy yourself through drugs and it didn’t work…
“No no no, not really destroy myself, but numb myself down to the point where I could relate to any of y…I almost said something insulting, which I have more class than that – um, to be able to relate to other people in society who basically are numbskulls and aren’t think and are never capable of relating to any of the concepts or anything or articulating…there’s no way in hell they can keep up with it. I run circles around everybody. I’ll go to Queen Anne’s college right here in the physics lab and just go right through people in a second. So I’m f*cked because I’m not walking on the same terra firma as everybody. I can speak it in any different language. I just don’t know what other people are thinking, what their interests are, I could care less. And I have more insight than they have amongst each other but then again I’m not into eugenics so I don’t care.”

Have you ever met anybody on your level, that you can engage with on an equal footing?
“I’ve met people I’ve been in envy of on different levels, because people have various strong points that really shine through under circumstances and my whole life I was just like, ‘Wow, I need to go back and learn some more things because this person just really impressed me.’ And that has been on physical, intellectual levels, romantic levels, everything, musical levels, just where I was in awe of people’s abilities. But I’m not too concerned with that these days.”

Sure. But you always want to learn about new things, about new advances…
“Yeah. I really want to get Harry Potter in the sack and pick his brain.”

You can probably get Daniel Radcliffe, the actor, but Harry Potter might be hard….
“Money makes the little doggy dance, man. Evidently. I mean, he’s on the market. I was looking in Time Out , he was there…[a few more indecipherable words]…put your hand in that Bangkok ladyboy.

They’re all growing up, aren’t they? They’re about 18 now, so they can do whatever they want.
“Evidently. [He puts on a strange voice like Tom Waits]. Magic is afoot, dear readers”.

Do you believe in magic?
[He sings] “‘In a young girl’s heart.’ Ah yeah. Name that tune. I can’t remember that band. I hated them. I think it’s Three Dog Nine or something, no it’s Loving Spoonful. [Sings] ‘Do you believe in magic in a young girl’s heart’. Yeah, that’s who it is. Oh man, I hate that guy who does all the harp.”

You have a lot of records, don’t you?
“I used to have 36,000 vinyls. Between Greg and I we had over 100,000, my business partner that died, that founded Bomp Records. [For a brief moment, he sounds actually quite sad]. Uh, but now I don’t care about it so much.”

Do you listen constantly to music?
“I do when I have my Mac charged. We’re working on it.”

So you’ve converted to digital now, instead of having vinyl?
“No, I use all kinds of stuff. I actually converted to the abstract chirpings of bats..”
[His wife interjects] “And there’s the baby thing.”
“I have Baby Mozart.”

What’s Baby Mozart? That sounds amazing!
“They have this thing in America for people out of preschool and there’s a blinking light and four buttons you can press and it’s like a round orb and it’s digital and it’ll just play a Bach or a Mozart sonata…”
[His wife interrupts again] “Like a baby toy and it’s chirping or a waterfall…”
“..and the baby’s hypnotised immediately. Like, oh look, my baby’s getting smarter, it doesn’t move. I do it to my dog and it’ll just zonk out my dog. He’s super intelligent – Iggy Pup is her name – and she’ll just go like this and she’ll be sitting there for like an hour, completely hypnotised automatically. And people do that, you know, we gotta go watch TV, watch Cash In The Attic I can’t deal with these babies. [Addressing his wife] You’re beautiful, I love you. I do.”

[There’s a brief discussion about Donnie Darko, then Anton reels off a list of films he considers to be great. Then, with no prompting, he digresses into the following statement]

I was talking to these two people who are very very established members of society and what I’ve come to reason and understand is that everybody’s too f*cking greedy right now and can’t wait to try to f*ck somebody over as their only means…not being productive, it’s thievery, it’s the end, it’s the hallmark of the death of a civilisation, so I can’t even think what else I can even say.”

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